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This is perfectly normal and should be expected. If you think the messages are mixed that she sends to you, just imagine how mixed up they are inside of herself. There's probably a lot of love/hate/anger/sadness and confusion going on.

It's not meant to be a trap, but you still want to stay on your best behaviour.

This will likely go on for a long time and you *will* get sick of it. When you do, you'll just need to suck it up a little more if you truly want to salvage your R.


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Thanks Learning......I do want to save my relationship. I know I have heavily damaged it but I dont think it has sank yet.

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Kind of fell off the wagon tonight. I started asking the W relationship questions she was getting kind of crappy and finally said that we will sit down after the kids go to bed and I can ask any questions that I have. Now I have no idea what I want to ask........and I am kind of freaking out.

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Bet you wish you didn't push the R talk now.

Advice, ask 1 question only and make it simple, make it a question you aren't afraid of the answer too, no matter what the answer is.

then STFU.



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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
Bet you wish you didn't push the R talk now.

Advice, ask 1 question only and make it simple, make it a question you aren't afraid of the answer too, no matter what the answer is.

then STFU.


How about asking for her opinion on Obama's proposal for Israel to return to its pre-1967 borders?

I was going to say something similar to Jack.

Just one word of warning. Do NOT tell her how bad you are hurting again!

If she talks LISTEN.

Say as little as you possibly can.

Then, don't do this to yourself again.


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Country I think I am going with your idea......might be easier to listen to than how evil I am.

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seriously I have been thinking that I am only going to ask one really good question and that it....then I f'ing hide.

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"Why the mixed signals"? B/C she has mixed feelings.

that's perfectly reasonable, don't you think? Yes it is and it's "normal", given the givens. In fact it's a positive in my book.

And it has not yet been even a month. She's doing great to be able to be in touch with any positives. Be grateful.

How's your work going?

How about we have less of Eyeore, and more of Tigger?

They are 180's of each other.

Make sense?


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M: 35 yrs
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X = "ALASKA 2.0"
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DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

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Oh, I had not seen this when I posted...dang Chris, you sure like pain...self inflicted.

And it is self inflicted. Just take J3b's advice and CS's etc...


Originally Posted By: ChrisW
Kind of fell off the wagon tonight. I started asking the W

Why? Why? Why?


relationship questions she was getting kind of crappy

But you kept on...why why why?

and finally said that we will sit down after the kids go to bed and I can ask any questions that I have. Now I have no idea what I want to ask........and I am kind of freaking out.


You got some good advice. This time, take it. And when something works, the idea is to keep doing it and NOT switching back to what we know does not work.

Don't do what you do b/c you've always done it b/c you'll get what you've always gotten.

Make sense?


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change
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Yes I asked one question.....I asked a question that I already knew the answer to. So, no surprises, no new anxiety. Today we had a good day with the kids and interacted some. When we got home I thanked her. She was like ok, your welcome. I told her thank you for a great day. I wasnt pushing my luck.

She told me last night that she didnt want to go to a MC because they would want to discuss how to save the M and she isnt there yet 100%. I know that is hard to hear...but I am doing a 180 and trying to look at it a positive manor. I am choosing to look at it like this. She isnt there 100% so that means she could be moving that direction. It means she is considering it. I have to take it as a good sign or my anxiety and impulse to talk things to death will drive me crazy. Of course it is already high since I am taking a beating on Facebook from her friends.

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