25 yes they do live with there mother.....we did lose the house and yes I live somewhere else...it does have room for them

No I have said and done everything you said about telling them nothing will change....My W told me a long time ago that the key to her heart was the girls....maybe I should have listened better..

Now for me, I have reconized what I needed to do to make myself happy...I no longer stress the freak out over little things like I used to....Case in point...my oldest got a speeding ticket and called me....the old Scott would have yelled ay her and then yelled at my W...I handled this different, first I asked if she was ok and then I said mail me the ticket and I will pay it....she asked me if I would call her mother and I did...boy her mother went off....a few days later I got a call from my W and she said who are you...you handled that very well. I told her look I am changing my whole way of thinking....My W has noticed some changes and she just says its to little to late...I have accepted that...Your advice to me and this forum letting me vent , I swear has helped me....So GALing this weekend....hoping to see the girls one of those days...Going out to the movies...hanging out with friends and enjoying my weekend off....A while back I would have never done anything like that....So I am going to be ok I think...with or without her...