Oh and J3B I love the way you post man and your insight and advice is invaluable. I have always held a great respect for you.

Those pages you posted.

Well I read them

Only one actually talks about a time when it is ok to walk away after you have tried everything.

The others refer more the LRT but at some point it is not about technique or tools it is about what is right and what is wrong.

IMHO

Don’t hammer me to hard

BITS