Denver - We should be looking out for ourselves from day one - and if we also manage to save our marriages, great. STBX took advantage of me sticking with her for so long it almost destroyed me. She literally broke me down. But when I reached the point of being broken, I somehow managed to start building myself back up - and not in her image. There is a point at which we all need to "quit" as I call it and let our spouses live the life they have chosen and quite often really, really worked to get to. I truly believe that in hindsight, we will all see that we waited too long. But...it will let us sleep easier than knowing we didn't wait long enough. We won't have to live with the guilt our WAS do.