True, Denver

Let me explain.

I guess I didn't know you had to post your story in order for you to comment. I have read most everyone's sitch as this is an open forum. I will work on that. I will say I have written my story about 60 times, but I can never submit it because it's really tough and I need to be kind vague for personal reason which I can't get into.

I will.

Before I came here I read a lot of stuff about MWD and this site which is also why I'm hesitant to post. The most disturbing was at least one, if not more, of the mods make up stories to post in an effort to make the site seem more active.

Lastly, when I talk about "stand for your M," I mean is that it's not enough to say "I stand for my M." Standing for your M means really noting in my book, you can say it until the fairies stop farting fairy dust and it won't change anything. Actions, my friend actions.

There is an odd dichotomy with Dbing. One on hand we like to pound our chest and say we stand for marriage and we want to save our marriage. It's at the bottom of every page. But on the other hand, we acknowledge that we are really here to save ourselves. Those ideals aren't always compatible.

Funny though, many of the 'experts' here are people who couldn't save their Ms, even if they followed DB to a T. They try to rationalize the failure by saying "'Well I saved myself.'

Their advice is no more valid or worthless than mine. IMO