Denver, what you said about boundaries and ultimatums made sense to me. I've never really understood the difference - though I can be a bit slow to figure things out. A boundary you are willing to enforce is essentially an ultimatum.
Learning - close... IMO though, a boundary that you are not willing to enforce is NOT a boundary. So essentially, a boundary IS an ultimatum.
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