Sanderika: Hugs. This so closely mirros the one counselling session I went to with my now xh.

Your therapist sounds kind and insightful - I went on seeing mine, and he helped me a lot because he had seen my now xh. He understood what was going on and that I wasn't crazy.

Your h is utterly lost to himself, and I think, sadly, that these very damaged men we probably have to let go, after a certain period of time. It was 5 years in my case.

They will either come out of it or not, and there isn't much we can do. We have demonstrated our love and fidelity and if it isn't what they want and need, it is pointless to persist, beyond a certain point.

If this type of MLCer [and I think there are other types] isn't willing to give up OW there is nothing we can do. It hurts initially to close the door but then there is a peace, the like of which I have not known since I started dealing with his MLC. But I hope your h chooses you and commitment.