Yes i guess there are small steps in right direction i just need to get a better grip, i really need to detatch. We are having family issues as the party at weekend is causing upset, none of my children will go as my wife is going to be there, they cant get a grip on how she is acting and now with another man on the scene they are fuming. Im not going anyway, as far as i know my wife is getting a lift from him, then she is staying at his Friday evening then over to my eldest daughters on Sat for the party, staying with her on Sat night then he is taking her back Sunday, the daughter whos party it is has spoken her mind to my wife but i believe that because she is the only real contact my wife has with whats left of our family my wife just ignores her comments and carrys on as though nothing was said. This is hard to deal with, my wife is saying i have put them up up it which i havnt, they are adults and make their own minds up. One thing i have learnt is that she is very good at making everything fit into what she believes and it will not be seen any different, no matter who says what. Wife is very upset about this and blames me, my eldest daughter told me about other man then when i reacted my daughter then told my wife loads of rubbish about what i had been saying, caused uproar between me and my wife, today my eldest daughter admitted she had stirred poo to my wife so of course no apology from my wife just talking to me a little nicer !!. I feel i want to walk away from all this and get on with my life and let her walk this path on her own, but if i go dark she kicks up bigtime and says i cant love her otherwise i wouldnt not contact her, i need help with this part PLEASE !!,....kevc