alamo, if you look back, I stated a similar goal not too long ago. And, just yesterday, we did spend some time together as a family. Me, my W, D and the dog. It was nice, but now that I have reflected on it, IDK. She is still with OM, she is still planning her future without me, is spending time together even productive right now?

I guess if I think about it, I don't have a good answer for you. My best would be, while that is your goal, your goal shouldn't be planning the situation together. It should be doing what you need to do for you, so your W wants to spend time together.

I haven't had any contact with my W since our time together yesterday, and I feel better now then I did right after. I was able to get back to ME today. And that feels better than thinking about how I get my W to do something I want her to do.

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