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Well I have had an alright weekend. We just texted each other yesterday. I was a good convo. I started it. She told me a lot of details about what she was doing with our D2 this weekend without me asking. I told her that I missed our D2. She said that she knew how I felt, that she misses her terribly when I have her. She called me about 10 am this morning. Wanted to ask if she could come get her mail. I told her I wasn't there, but it would be fine. She had told me she would have her mail forwarded a month ago but hasn't. We talked about how excited she was to take our D2 to the circus today. I hate missing things like this with her. The conversation was lite and cheerful. I want to call to see how their day was, but I have decided to not pursue her anymore this weekend. Gotta remind myself to slow down. We seem to be having more phone calls instead of texting. I think this is a step in the right direction. It's so nice to hear her voice. MWD said in her youtube video that she believes a woman's heart will begin to soften if you play the cards right. I hope I am. Denver also recently posted that he had a gut feeling that his wife was beginning to change. I have had that feeling lately but do not trust it yet.


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There you go, ill. That is the spirit and the right attitude. I like the tone in your post. Please keep up the good work. At least you are talking and any talk is good talk. It has been 14 days since my W and I talked. I think I am going to get with my coach and discuss this very soon. I am proud of you, buddy!

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Me: 39
W: 36
T: 15 yrs
M: 9 yrs
S: 09/10

So you can get on with your search, baby
And I can get on with mine
And maybe someday we will find,
That it wasn't really wasted time...
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I posted on your thread some advice about your sitch, but forgot to mention using your coach. I would set up a meeting ASAP. You've been in a rut for too long my friend, time for a change. Make your first call to your coach and when your ready make your next one to your wife. You can do this bud!


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Rough night for IW. I have been talking on here how much I believed calling my W was helping my sitch. Well tonight I got a real 2x4 to the head. I called her like I planned to talk about the circus. She didn't answer, which is very strange for her. My mind immediately began to wander. My gut told me it was bc she was with the OM. A half hour later she calls back. We begin an upbeat convo about the circus and our D2. I also wanted to kno if she could cut my hair wednesday. She says she has to cut her grandpas tomorrow and asked if she could do it then. I said fine. I can tell she is driving. As were are talking she asks the passenger were the blinker switch is. My heart drops. I say "oh who's with ya." She responds without hesitation "OM." What a slap in the face. I just said a couple of more things and ended the convo....devistated!!!

20 minutes later she calls back to ask me if I would like to have dinner at her grandparents. I said sure.

Maybe I have to face facts. Is it time to give up? She was so non shillont about telling me who she was with. As if it was just one of her old girlfriends. I finally went around the house and took down our wedding/ family pics. They are no good anymore. I feel that all may be lost


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IWL, take a breath. First, not all is lost. OK, you have to believe that. Have you read the sitch I posted some weeks ago about a buddy of mine? He was a WAS, left for two years, dated two other women, slept with both of them and pretty much turned his back on his wife and child. She got tired of waiting, she slept with a co-worker. But, after two years of doing all this crap, he suddenly woke up one day and wanted to go home. He and his W are in counseling and are happy now. They have had another child and things are better.

Do I want to see you wait for two years? No, I don't, but I think you get my point. Just because she admitted her was there it is not the end of the world. A blow to you and your sitch? Yes, sure. A painful one at that. But, hey, you already knew he was there right? Don't let yourself think this is a new wound. It is the same one you have suffered with for some time.

Get our your books, manuals and start working. Get on the phone with your coach. Work on your next step. Remember what some folks on here have told you. Once the OM is out there and not a secret, it loses it's luster and could fail.

I am pulling for you, buddy. Don't let that brief convo ruin all that you have worked on until this point. You can beat him. Denver is doing it and you can too!!!

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FOBD


Me: 39
W: 36
T: 15 yrs
M: 9 yrs
S: 09/10

So you can get on with your search, baby
And I can get on with mine
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That it wasn't really wasted time...
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Almost no sleep. Terrible dreams when I did. I thought I was past these nights but all it took was one word to bring them roaring back. I don't feel strong enough to handle this anymore.


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You ARE strong enough man. That is not the question. The question is whether or not you are willing to go through the pain? Are you willing to walk through the gates of hell for you M, for you W, for yourself?

I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other... it is a decision only you can make for yourself.

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IW,

First off, why do you need her to cut your hair? Get it cut by someone else. Show her little by little that you don't need to rely on her. In fact, get it cut in a cool stylish way that is different than the way she would.

YOu have to start making yourself stand out from the OM. The hair cutting issue is a small one, but it shows her that you will not be modeled by her, even lookwise.

Start by being your own man like the OM is. Let her re-discover you.


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Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet a new life.

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These ups and downs happen. You'll get through this one like you did the others!


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Iw, you have a choice to make. You can show your wife the old you and you will get what is behind door #1. Or, you can start DBing and show your w the new, improved, more interesting you and you will get what is behind door #2. So, what is behind the doors, you might ask? Well, behind #1 is a divorce and your w permanently moving toward the arms of the OM. Behind door #2 is a limitless amount of possibilities that you can have some influence over... many of them probably involve a long and happy life with your W.

Which door will you choose???

BITS never walk alone!!

FOBD


Me: 39
W: 36
T: 15 yrs
M: 9 yrs
S: 09/10

So you can get on with your search, baby
And I can get on with mine
And maybe someday we will find,
That it wasn't really wasted time...
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