Islander, I agree so much with you when you say why not try. To me there is nothing more to lose but everything to gain. It just makes me feel like im not worth it. That being in this M was pure hell for him. Although he has said he has been very happy in the M. I really think at this point the OW is such a big obstacle in my sitch. Shes making him feel everything good i apparently havent been. But 29 yrs of M is reality, not a few months of here and there visits or chats on the phone. It makes me feel like i did all this. I did this to our M.