Sandi2, Your are right. They are useless because I didn't follow through. Some part of me wants to believe he still wants to save this somehow. I feel so pathetic. He did change meds and is doing better on them, but still drinking. He tries to slow down but has not stopped. Part of the 180's I tried to do in the begining was trying to do more for him. His complaint was that I was so focused on the kids and did not support him and alway put him down for not helping. He is away on travel now and I have not called or checked in with him like I normaly do. What should I be doing at this point? Detach, live like roomates back off....I have no clue.