well, My first night without the kids and wife gone. Got all my chores done, just getting to sit down. We broke the news to the kids last night, it went as well as could be expected. She did most of the talking. She had to get it done and she did. Her demeanor was not good for me though. Very sure that she will never be coming back. She talked divorce again, she said "I really want to get this done" I told her to do what you have to. I calmly told her why not give the seperation a trial run before you go do anything to drastic. She is going to file as soon as she can. I expect within 30 days. She is really full of anger and resentment. She says she can never get past that. "I won't let myself get past it" rings a bell. She also said she forgives me. So I don't know how those 2 statments match up. She is obviously an emotional wreck, but none of those emotions show she has any thought to reconsile. I am hoping she doesn't rush into anything, but we will see. None of my efforts to this point have shown any positive changes. She is going to have to try some life on her own and see how she likes it.