From the Darkness Comes the Light!

[Denver_2010]

Only thing you can say is I understand or nothing at all.

Ignore all of what they say and half of what they do as MWD says. Just because she's not able to trust you enough now doesn't mean things can't change.

Michelle is dead on 2Step. My W told me those exact same things in January. It is okay. She just needs time man.

IMHO I really think that you need to back off the R talk with her and keep things on lighter subjects. I DEFINITELY understand your desire to talk R with your W. But every time that you do, right now, it reminds her why she can't give you another chance. AND, it isn't going to change her mind... not yet.

You are in a good place bc you are having consistent contact with your W. I think that that is really good. But I still think that you need to let her process what she is going through and the changes that she is seeing in you.

JMO man.

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Denver