denver, you always know just what to say thanks fobd, thank you for sharing your story i hope you keep it up and your wife comes around it is funny how things work out i think back on the time i had with my h, and now he just seems like a stranger to me i think the scary thing about being separated (one of them anyway) is how disconnected i am feeling towards him i am going to keep up my dbing (which i am not very good at right now) but if he turns, i just might not be here i think the only reason to do this now is for our son which is perfectly valid but i don't look at him these days and think "god, i'd love to be in his arms right now" maybe my pride and self worth are coming back