Well, personally, I'm glad we're in this boat together. I mean, I don't wish any of us were but if we have to, at least we have each other - sounds like a song.
Let me ask you two. What do you mean by no affection? Does she let you touch her? I mean, does she let you hug, cuddle even give her a kiss? or is she just not initiating it?
I ask because my W does. She lets me cuddle and will even roll over and put her arms around me. She one time said to me as I was leaving the room that its ok to come over and give her a kiss.
She has at times initiated giving me a kiss not just when she leaves for work.
We haven't "made out" since before Christmas but she's been affectionate. I'm not sure how to take it to the next level besides completely leaving it in her court. I can be patient during this part and take others' advice.
Is that what you guys are doing?
(ditto on the call - it would allow us to game plan easier and quicker)
m 40 w 38 married 15 together 18 d11, d8 bomb 12/19/10 2nd bomb 3/30/11 COMPLETELY DONE