Oh boy, Denver, it is brave for you to speak such truth. Our primary goal when embarking on this was to save our marriages. To say otherwise, in most cases, is simply not true.

Also, I completely agree that if we keep the faith and believe that we are going to save our M, we cannot help but feel let down when things don't go in that direction.

I think that this is where the advice about forgetting about the M for right now and just work on ourselves comes in. It's just downright scary to do that.

I have nothing to offer here other than I struggle with the same circle jerk that you do.

However, J3B, really got me thinking tonight. I mean we are already defying the statistics... Many of us have managed to at least delay a divorce for awhile. There will be more than a few of us who will manage to save our marriages because of the tools taught here. So, that's good news. Many people don't have that. I feel your struggles, Denver. I absolutely feel them.

I'm praying for you.

LIS


Me- 40
H - 43
M - 5
T - 14
Separated 2/5/11