Thanks HB! You mentioned that "getting married" doesnt mean they are OUT. I did NOT know that it did in the first place. Yes she was pregnant right off the bat! Her first child died in a car, her mom forgot him there.......horrible death! He was two yrs. old. My ex had told someone that she (his new wife), was crazy and he wouldnt be with her very long, (or something like that). I guess he changed his mind huh? My ex told me after he left that he wanted to PLAY! He said he was tired of being married. He tried to date alot of different women, mostly young women. I guess he realized he better grab this one,,,,,to him it was better than being alone. He told me after she moved in that she grew on him. What a basis for a marriage! Anyway I dont try to contact him, the last time I tried, as soon as he heard my voice he hung up!!!! I had called to try and get my sons ss# for life insurance purposes. I was need to talk to my ex about our home debt, something very important,,,,,,,but NO EAY will he give me time to breathe on the phone until he hangs up? Why is this do you think? Why couldnt he speak to me fro a few mins. She is not around and would not have to know, I need to get this debt settled. (long story). I hope my son comes around, he is NOW acting just like his dad as far as talking to me. I am so glad your son as done well ofr himself. You have a right to be very proud! I wish Snodderly would chime in. She tried to help me many times and I wouldnt listen. I hope she is NOT upset with me, I would love to hear from her!