When we talk about the OP we are talking about the OP. Not other people. Not our friends or family members. Not other people on this site. Please, don't make me be politically correct about my XH and the OW. They both make me want to throw up--mentally, physically and emotionally. I have other male friends who wear Brooks Brothers suits. Its only the XH who makes me gag, because I know how vain he is. I think this chain is silly