I respectfully disagree, TAMF's H chose to leave and he hasn't contacted the girls since she told him to leave her alone. Therefore, if he wants to see them he needs to do it when it is right for the girls, not for him!! That is all I was saying, that is isn't about him, it is about them. I do think that when you do what he has done or what any of these WAS or MLCer's do, they are not good parents in this time of their lives, it all goes together, if he is accepting not seeing them because she says so, then he doesn't really care to see them, NO ONE would keep me from my kids no matter what.

That is my opinion, good parents don't hurt their kids regardless of what is going on inside them, they are parents first, he is not in his right mind, and is not being a good parent. She has to be in control of what is best for her kids, cause H sure isn't, someone has to be the parent and make it right for these kids, that is all I meant, that is what being in charge and being a parent is all about. He is not in a place to make proper judgement calls and she is, therefore it is in her control and she needs to have boundries about what is going to be appropriate for the kids and what isn't. And, I do think that a parent behaving inappropriate has little to no rights.

If they want to see him, I would let them, but it would be within what I think is right, good, and appropriate for them, cause I wouldn't trust him to know that right now, IMO, having an affair is not just about the marriage, it is about the family, and a lack of respect for all involoved. When you have kids you give up your right to make it just about you or just about the marriage, everyone is involoved and everyone suffers. You can keep your kids out of the adult problems and let them be kids, but in reality they know what is going on and it is their "forever family" that is affected, we can move on and find others, we can marry someone else, but that means their family is forever broken up, they have to go to different houses, we dont', they are the ones who lose the most, so it isn't just about the marriage, it is about the family and that is what these MLC'ers and WAW's don't get. I am all about a relationship with their Dad, just not on the terms that involves the kids being put second to an OW or anything else. He needs to have his own relationship with his kids, one that is appropriate, that is all I meant.

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Me-40
XH-44
T-21
M-18
Div-19 mo.
D-18,S-15,D-11
Bomb-7/07 EA,PA
Mvd out-9/07-to give me space
mvd back-12/07
mvd out-7/08
back with OW since 2/08
OW broke it off-1/10
in and out of tunnel and our life since!!