guys, please practice this - DON'T TRY AND FIX THINGS. It's taken me this long to realize. Most times, they just want to vent their frustration. Sometimes the best thing to do is say, I'm sorry or I understand how you feel or That [censored]. That's all they want. I'm sure it's the same if they love us or not.

I think a big thing is that we(those of us in this awful situation) tried to fix so much in the past that that is all our wives see. When we don't try to fix, they may see a change in us.

MJ, I'm so sorry for what happened because essentially you didn't do anything wrong. Remember that, dude.

m 40
w 38
married 15
together 18
d11, d8
bomb 12/19/10
2nd bomb 3/30/11
COMPLETELY DONE