dont do it - that way hasnt worked for 3 years - cheeseless tunnel as michelle would say. its still almost zero chance the new way will work either, but its better than zero. im sure it makes you feel good, no matter what you say pubically, that your daughter is on your side (for the family unit), but im not sure that it helps her heal. i think of all the high roads we take, letting the kids realize that its over, and reinforcing that, it the hardest thing to do, when every ounce of your soul is saying "go ahead kid - let her know how much damage she has caused" - do you think your ex knows you are on this forum?