Thanks agin Punkin. To answer your question, I find myself drinking with her when we're at family gatherings. In July, it was her uncle's birthday. He didn't know about us yet, and I helped keep appearances. Again, for an employer dinner at Christmas - her bosses don't know.

The holidays were different where we had Christmas at the ILs house, and I wouldn't miss the chance for time with my kids. The other occasions won't happen again, but I'll have a hard time letting Christmas go.

I hope to be coaching again this season, so I won't have to interact. I do need to do a better job about ignoring her feelings, but I believe some of that led to our separation. DBing is different, I know, but hey it's hard not being considerate.

My W isn't tough. Just stubborn. She often thinks she's "street smart", but looking at her from this perspective proves the contrary.