Thanks SFO. Chemo or not will be Dad's choice. He had Chemo three years ago and sailed through it. He didn't lose a meal or a hair. He did feel fatigued though and was much healthier than he is now. I went through this 11 years ago with wife's father, he passed away from stomach cancer. I told my girls tonight that I still remember our visits to him in Paliative Care. Despite the pain and weakness whenever he saw the girls his face would just light up. I told them that they brought him such joy in his last days and they will do the same for Grandpa. I also remember the nurses at one point not allowing the girls into the Paliative Care unit and my wife screaming at them "You f'ing bitches" over and over. We were in HK for a month and her Dad died after 1.5 weeks. She was never quite the same after that, she loved her Dad a great deal. I said to my mom tonight that part of me wishes Dad had of just gone on the table, I don't want to see him in pain like my father-in-law. I talked to my best friend, who lost his Dad about 30 years ago suddenly. He said what he wishes is that he could have had some time with his Dad to say what he wanted to say to him but he never had the chance, I have that chance. Anyway, I really should try the sleep thing again. Goodnight all.