Thanks Sandi,
I still question if I am doing the right things from an affection standpoint. And I am learning EVERY DAY!!! And I see my part in driving her to look at other options. I was a fool. I look at all I took for granted... Just think about it:

*6 months ago I could tell my W lets take a bath and have champagne together in the tub... Today, NOPE!

*6 months ago I could comment on how beautiful my W was (other then her face)... Today, NOPE!

*6 months ago I could come home and kiss my wife anywhere I wanted to... Today, NOPE!

*6 months ago I could ask my W to ML... Today, NOPE!

*6 months ago I could plan an overnight stay in a beautiful hotel with her... Today, NOPE!

*6 months ago I could enjoy ice cream or breakfast in bed, naked... Today, NOPE!

6 months ago I could tell my W "I love you" and expect to hear it back... Today, NOPE!

Once I get her back I will appreciate every privilage we share. I am convinced that when a woman gives herself to you, it is a gift!!!


Back to some concerns:
I still initiate almost all affection. So I need advice...

Last night we went to bed spooning again. Again she backed into me and did not resist at all. I THINK she likes it. But how do I know if she is just faking it or not.

The reason I think she is NOT faking is:

*She could just as easily move to the edge of the bed
*She could say shes hot and ask me to give her a little space
*She could go to bed much earlier (we have always gone to bed at the same time)
*She could simple tell me that shes not ready

Am I over thinking this?

Do I stay the course?

Do I need to make her miss me more?


I HATE this game!

Sandi, what did your H do when YOU started to come around? Did he move too fast or was it just the right pace? My W never moved out and she stopped her EA within 30 days of my setting a boundary.


I DO believe I am handling most of this correctly and am staying true to the DB/DR strategy.

I just want to be sure that I am pacing correctly.

One last question about tonight. I am going out with the guys (probably till about 3am) so we will not be going to bed together. I would ALWAYS come home and spoon her in the past. Should I do the same tonight?


M: 42 - W: 41 - M: 18 - T: 23 - D:16 S:14
EA - July 2010
NC w/EA - Nov 2010
Piecing - Jan 2011
I ask for div - Jan 2012
Div papers filed - Mar 2012
I move out - July 2012
Divorce final - Nov 7, 2012