Am I piecing? Just can't tell...

[Sad_but_happy]

You are welcome to stay Angel and vent away! We can help each other.

I will tell you that I no longer say, "I love you" to my W. I desperately want to and I desperately want to hear it but I will not say it until I hear that she is 100% invested in the marriage. The last 5 times I said it I got, "thank you", or "I know"... Forgive me but that is crap and that is "the fog". You don't spend 21 years with someone and then stop loving them. So I don't put any merrit to her lack in response.

I believe in non-sexual touch. I touch on the arm or leg. Hold it only for a second (which is long enough to give that electric pulse of warmth without being sexual).

When talking to your H, look into his eyes as if you are intently listening (not gazing).

My boundary was/is firm on OM. If he's in the picture then W is out of the house. I will not give up dignity or self-respect! And W would not respect me if I let her eat cake!

If she wants to eat cake she can do it in the cold crule world alone. Not while being 100% supported by me! I will not support her ability to EA/PA OM.

That boundary seems to be unpopular with some on this board. But everyone is an individual...

Stay here and post your issues as often as you like.

Thanks for checking in...