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I know what you're saying gritter,
I am acting out of anger and frustration.
I feel unfairly cheated out of my life and my children have been cheated out of theirs.
I feel I/we deserve better than this stupid pretense.
I feel W should not be allowed the luxury of pursuing OM w/o facing the consequences of her choices.
These are feelings I am literally having to fight off every minute of every day
I honestly wish she'd GTF out of my life right now, and I fantaasize about putting all her crap in moving boxes.
I'll calm myself down before I go home.
Think I'll be late.


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"A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."
InAPickle #2109283 11/26/10 06:10 PM
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Oh Yeah. She also mentioned she's going to open a seperate bank acct and wants to squirrel away money for herself. How should I react to that?


Me 53 XW 50
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Served 1-27-11
Mediate 4-21-11
Civil D Final 6-2-11
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"A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."
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Pickle-
I truly understand your anger and frustration.

You are right. This is a really good time to not talk to her. Make sure you are calm and know what your long term goal is before you act.

Hang in there.


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Question for Trugritter:

How is telling her she's not thinking rationally, "dropping a bomb"?

When a WAW acts like a child, I cannot help but begin treating her like a child. Tell me what I should do? (after I calm down)

Pickle


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"A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."
InAPickle #2109304 11/26/10 08:13 PM
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dmod: my original goal was to somehow lead her down a path that will make her doubt her choice to destroy the home and marriage, with the long term goal of - you know - eventually both of us working on the R. Believe it or not, it wasn't that long ago we were star crossed lovers. I'm having real difficulty seeing no progress - desperately need support and ideas. Some warm female companionship would be nice too - the woman is an icicle.


Me 53 XW 50
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S14 D19
Bomb 10-24-10
Served 1-27-11
Mediate 4-21-11
Civil D Final 6-2-11
No church anullment
"A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."
InAPickle #2109314 11/26/10 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: InAPickle
I'm having real difficulty seeing no progress - desperately need support and ideas.
Sometimes seeing progress is slow.
You must keep your expectations low.
This is not going to be fixed overnight!
It is going to take a lot of hard work and time.

Time is the one commodity that you now have a lot of.
It is a GIFT.
From your wife.
Make the best use of it.


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Originally Posted By: Pickle
Question for Trugritter:

How is telling her she's not thinking rationally, "dropping a bomb"?

When a WAW acts like a child, I cannot help but begin treating her like a child.


Simple answer.

It does not validate her feelings.

She is not with you right now and right or wrong, she thinks YOU are the problem.

If you are pointing out that she is not "rational" do you think that makes her feel like she should look at her behavior

Or

That you are just being the same jerk that she decided to leave?

It does not mean you agree with her.

It is just not pushing your own ideas and agenda on her right now.

She has to come through this before she can look at her behavior and decide for herself what she wants to change.

She will not decide to do that with you tatooing her in the forehead.

It is counter intuitive Pickle I know. Because I sung from the same hymnal you are singing from.

Just trying to give you the benefit of what I have already figured out from making the same mistakes.

If/when she decides to step back toward you

You will not have to tell her these things.

She will tell you and ask you to forgive her behavior

BUT

That day is not today.

Validate.

And STFU.

Work on YOU not her. Stop looking at her and get busy becoming the man you want to be

And then live it.


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"It is a GIFT.
From your wife."

I'll be sure to send her a thank you note.

She said she talked to a lawyer today - still scared to death of exposure.

Gritter - It's hard to validate - she's too confrontational.

I wish she'd just go away.


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Mediate 4-21-11
Civil D Final 6-2-11
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"A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he quits."
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Originally Posted By: Pickle
she's too confrontational.


Silence is also good if you can't find the words.

You can do this my man.

It takes a while.

You got to push the anger out of the way. It is holding you back.


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Can I teach you how to make quotes on your thread?
It will make your posts a little easier to read.

Easiest way, hit quote button on the bottom, instead of reply and eliminate(delete) text you do not want.

Second way copy text the way you are and hit 5th button from the right
which will give you [quote][/quote I am leaving out last bracket, paste text between brackets.

Third way is to type above in manually [quote] ..text..[/quote .....(again last bracket missing).

You can use the preview button to see what your post will look like before you submit it.

The edit portion of this forum is disabled so the preview button is a must in order to catch your mistakes before you post.

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