I read that WAW post awhile back. I never knew it was about you, Gr8! When I read that, I identified with it a LOT.
I think your response is great. You are owning what you did... it takes a real man to do that, to admit to his contribuation to the way things ended up. And she would also need to admit her half, too.
[quote=gr8 day 2B alive]Last week I gave her the "I can't be with someone who doesn't want to be with me speech"
Sol, That wasn't my W. I just showed it to her so she would know I unstand how she felt.
I just spoke to W. I gave her a call and we spoke for over an hour.
My gut feeling was that she needs to see something from me. I wasn't going to proceed with the wait and see technique.
I called her to suggest we go to MC. Her reply was~ It would be needed if we choose to go that route. OK, she's still uncertain.
Some key points of the convo were:
She still thinks I'm playing games. Said I would do some nice things then do some mean things. I didn't argue. That's her perception. Her parents now, who were supporters of R, are now telling her she should move on. W showed her mom the email from me stating I could be with someone who doesn;t want to be with me. Her mom said I was playing games with that email. ???? Her mom also mentioed she should goto MC so she could have peace of mind that she tried everything
W did bring up the past again. I just listened, really listened hard.
I then spoke about what I wanted in a R, ~ M. I told her I will be a supportive partner. Told her I wasn't going to sit back, I was going to lead us through this horrible time. Told her of some past times she made me happy and that I wanted more of that. I mentioned I called her today b/c I wanted to make sure I tried EVERYTHING to save the M so I wouldn't have regrets. I ended by asking her if anything I said was unclear. She said no.
She paused for a few moments and then said.............
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.........And asked- what is the first step to make this work?
Finally, effing finally. Her wall is coming down. Maybe she needed to hear I was going to guide us through this mess and that I WILL be there for her emtionally and phyically.
I paused a few moments and said~ The first step would be a committment to do the work, and the understanding that this will be more difficult than when she decided to leave.
I asked her to think about it and when she decides, to just simply say. "Im ready"
That's where we are now.
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And I loved your response of "commitment" and understanding how difficult it will be...and it will be difficult!
Well done! Makes this Monday not seem so bad!
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LOL! Finally, indeed! And way to go w/ the suspense you had there!
So what is going to happen? You going to schedule up some MC sessions? I say, send her some flowers today or tomorrow w/ a note saying you are committed to your marriage. Add something about why you married her, fell in love with her.
Now I need to show her more of the "nice" things again.
Some little sweet nothings here and there. Not over the top.
I know she wants some little signs of affection. She didn't want to come out and say it.....if she did so it would cheapen the thought.
I finally feel she may want to R. She just wants me to take control and guide us through it.
Still one day at a time.
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Two key things you said that you need to remind yourself of: - not over the top on the sweet things - one day at a time
M39 W41 Two children WAW bomb dropped 11/7/09 Piecing Aug 10 - Nov 10 No longer piecing...Nov 10 Separation Jan 11 EA ends again Feb 11 Piecing attempt #2, Mar 11
Bomb 8/09. Brief piecing 12/10. D-2/12 Two incredible kids D9,S6 Leading new life! “Success is not to be pursued; it is to be attracted by the person we become."