I'd like to comment on this. I've considered myself a feminist depending on how you want to label it. I've also been a control freak and when the victoria secret ads came on tv. I did the lecture too. I was also a LD wife as the marriage went on. It's taken a lot of soul searching to link everything together and figure out why I was being the way I was. It had nothing to do with feminism. It really was all because of insecurity. I gained a lot of weight over the years. When beautiful half naked women were on tv, I felt so inferior compared to them, so the best way to deal with it was to demonize it to H. I mean if H appreciated them, then how the heck could he appreciate me. It also attributed to my LD. I didn't always used to be LD. Now that I've been losing weight, changing my attitude, I feel the differences in me already and my drive is waaaay up, sigh and H is gone, figures:-). Insecurity is so damaging as it pushes the S away further. Just some food for thought for possibilities in this situation. Lisa my thread