Rayann, thank you for saying that. CeMar it does seem like you are making it into a male vs female thing here. Believe me, the HD female is not exactly happy either. I would give anything to have my marriage back the way it was 15 yrs ago also. We are all here trying to figure out how to do just that. Can we lighten up just a little on the male vs female thing? We HD women want our lovers back same as you do