If being truthful is shooting someone down, then shooting someone down IS the appropriate thing to do. What is wrong about pointing out incorrect assertions? What is wrong with requesting truthfulness? Your choice. Choose.
My wife cannot tell me why, if I'm so wrong about all that I've observed, she has not once attempted or even hinted that she would share any level of intimacy with me. Am I frustrated? Absolutely. My frustration after more than 13 and a half years is obvious...but she cannot even explain why she wanted the situation she has precipitated (other than she did not expect me to keep our agreement on this). This is not something that I'm left in the dark or otherwise attributing to her in a vacuum. When I put that question to her point blank, she had absolutely no answer beyond admitting that she just did not try even when she did "miss" our intimate moments.
Maybe that's her defensiveness, but I also have made the following point very, very clear...I have resigned myself to a completely sexless marriage with a complete absence of intimacy with her. I have given up any expectation of anything different.
I'm done.
Last sex: 04/06/1997 Last attempt: 11/11/1997 W Issues "No Means No" Declaration: 11/11/1997 W chooses to terminate sex 05/1998 I gained 60, then lost 85 pounds. Start running again (marathons)