What is and is not DBing

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But I don't think you lay out firm boundaries AFTER you've cleaned up all of your own issues. I think you lay them out UP FRONT, as you begin -- also UP FRONT -- to work on your own.

Agreed. How can you even begin to work on yourself unless you acknowledge that poor boundaries and not standing up for yourself in a calm, responsible way are probably part of the problem?

It's so common here that people have poor boundaries and codepenency issues, that I'd be suprised to see a healthy person with good boundaries and no codedependency issue register as a member.

And for some reason, that reminds me of a Laurie Anderson song called "Coolsville":

Hey little darlin,
I'm comin your way little darlin
And I'll be there
Just as soon as I'm all straightened out
Yeah just as soon as I'm perfect.