Hey Pin

Man I can't say I went through your whole thread(s) If I missed something tell me.

What I see.

She has checked out emotionally. There probably is OM.

Or was.

You worked a little bit and then

Didn't get results and keep going back to the fact that she said she didn't love you but would saty for kids.

She initiated the bomb.

Why do you think?

She must have thought it out dontcha think?

Well he might leave. He might want me to leave.

This? or That?

WTF? It doesn't make sense. Something happened she didn't plan.

Maybe OM dumped her when she made the move with you. Didn't want the commitment. Or had guilt.

There would be a natural "mourning" period where she would be indifferent.

She does have guilt >>>>>>"you can date if you want to"

She is looking for a place to put it my friend.

And to you

Your defense was becoming the WAS. Who left in your first M?

This is a mexican standoff IMO. She doesn't believe you can change and you don't believe she will.

What does manning up mean to you?

What kind of man do you aspire to be?

Will your actions be in line with that?

Or

In reaction to something that your W doesn't feel like giving to you right now?

We are not entitled to anything...only what we choose for ourselves.

Originally Posted By: Pin
I am being me!


Do you know what that is?

This is hard stuff Pin. If you knew the answer to my question you would not be conflicted.

You have lost your way once already (1st M) and BTW so did I so I know what I am talking about.

When you got married this time you had an expectation and ...

so your vows were conditional weren't they?

Cause this ain't what you signed up for huh?

Schidt that sucks! It does. I know.

Know what sucks worse?

Living your life confirming you were wrong about your M, yourself and your W...

Your choices define who you are so

be careful.
Be patient with yourself
Be kind to yourself

Your honor will tell you the right thing to do.

^^^^^^^that^^^^^^^^^

is not a feeling it is a decsion.

Courage and strength will determine if you will choose it.

There is no judgement here Pin. Your answer is in you.

One last question.

How would you feel if she moved out?

Would that confirm or deny what you want from her.


My goal is to some day be the person my dog thinks I am