Originally Posted By: Pensacolabroken
The point of boundry/ultimatlum is not to be a relationship builder that comes later. I see it as a method to begin working on the relationship


Agree.

Also, many people COME to this forum, with infidelity having already been confirmed, or at LEAST strongly suspected. So, many folks legitimately do "start with the boundary," and boundaries are, in fact, BEST laid out early -- not later on as some sort of last resort.

Puppy

P.S. In fairness to poor Arnie, Frank, I do believe he sourced a book where his concept of "unconditional regard" was coming from.


M57 W 57; D30 D28 S24 S20 GD7 GD2 GD1 GD5m GD1m
BD 5/07; W's affair 5/07-8/07

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