Originally Posted By: ArnieBGood

I am not certainly advocating having no bottom line - I am saying that there is a lot of territory to cover before getting to that point, and more effective ways of covering that territory.


The question Arnie is not "are you advocating no bottom line". The question is what do you advocate an abandoned/betrayed/left behind spouse doing when a boundary is rejected, bypassed, transgressed, disrespected, ignored... Or in some way disregarded.

What do you advocate the spouse to do when the ultimatum is challenged outright?

According to the text the answer is "follow through".

You avoid the question by simply saying "there is a lot of territory to cover before getting to that point. Saying that isn't an answer. The question isn't how much territory there is to cover before an ultimatum is laid down.

The question is... do you or do you not advocate following through on a boundary/ultimatum once set?

Yes... or No?