"but if our sitches aren't unique, then most advice would apply to all sitches."
Advice does. It just depends on how you read it. It is the context of the advice.
"for sure. but i will think twice about wanting someone to provide and protect me. there will always be a voice that says "don't be fooled by these empty promises. it's a trojan horse that will come back and bite you."
Do you really think.. that from post 1.. I did not see that? Maybe I should have just stopped posting once I saw that. How would that have worked out? I am not here to have you waste my time. But if that is how you want to live your life.. go ahead.
"if this advice is being given by a vet who has been there, why isn't it working? then you realize the person isn't in the right frame of mind to start doing the work. this problem still exists in newcomers."
Working is so subjective. Is the newcomer doing things exactly as they report to DB.com? Most likely not. So.. is it the vet that failed.. or the newcomer? Is it not the Newcomers job.. to really follow direction? They came.. they posted.. but did they listen? This issue will always be in the Newcomer section. Look at Puppy's goodbye.. heck look at any vets goodbye.
People need to be prepared.. that is what the vets will do.
It is still up to the Newcomer to make sure they follow the Vets advice.
The vet expects failure.. and still tries to lead. But it can become frustrating to do. You can only come up with so many ways to say it.
"we're in our own fog. however, you have to let them experience what it's like to be completely powerless and rotten. only then, can they decide that they don't want that."
So.. now you have cleared the fog? Do you understand yet?
I knew.. from post 1 that me and you would be right here.. fighting it out.
You very likely won't like me.. cause I am gonna beat you up.
I am OK with that.
Cause from the start.. I told you all you had to say was "Forrest.. go away."
Dumped.. Who do you want to be?
Time is up..
I won't let you roll out like this.
Unless you tell me too.
Relax Eat Think Act normal React.. Smartly. Do something different. Emulate. Do Work.