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Originally Posted By: pinhead
Watched some TV shows together when the Ds were in bed, had a few drinks, then ML.

If you are intent on walking out on her, then why would you do this??


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Originally Posted By: pookie69
Pin,

I have been following your sitch from the beginning. You've put a lot of work into saving your M.

You seem to be very upset about what your W told you about leaving if there were no kids. You keep obsessing over that statement.

While I totally understand that words like that hurt, but isn't the whole thing we've learned here about what to read into statements like that.

What is different about that versus the bomb itself.

If it was me, I would not be so focused over what she said and I would not give up the DB at this point.

You've got her attention, why not figure out how to be attractive to her.

Moving into your new apartment may hold the key to the next phase.

Don't lose your motivation now.

You can do it.


I think everyone's misunderstanding me a bit. Or I'm not being too clear. I'm not upset about what she said. It's what she felt at the time, and she was being honest and open. Which is a good thing. But to me it's a really clear wake up call that makes it hard for me to trust anything I see.

And I'm not opposed to reconciling. We're not even close to that though.

And I'll keep DBing. Mostly because I think it's helped me change and grow a lot.

The reason it's different from the Bomb itself, is, she was going to leave after dropping the bomb, because she felt that way. Now she's staying despite still feeling that way.

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Originally Posted By: pinhead
Watched some TV shows together when the Ds were in bed, had a few drinks, then ML.

If you are intent on walking out on her, then why would you do this??


Because I'm an idiot. I still love her, am still attracted to her, and combine that with a few drinks, and voila!

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Originally Posted By: pinhead
Watched some TV shows together when the Ds were in bed, had a few drinks, then ML.

If you are intent on walking out on her, then why would you do this??


Because I'm an idiot. I still love her, am still attracted to her, and combine that with a few drinks, and voila!

And so do you still think she's not attracted to you?

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But to me it's a really clear wake up call that makes it hard for me to trust anything I see.

And if you ML to her right before you're going to walk out on her, can you also see how she has reason not to trust anything she sees, either?


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Originally Posted By: FindingMyVoice

And if you ML to her right before you're going to walk out on her, can you also see how she has reason not to trust anything she sees, either?


Pin, I see drama developing here.

Do you really want that?

She is serving you sandwiches on a platter and you are questioning the ingredients. If you want more lettuce, work for it a little. If it has been in the fridge too long, get some fresh stuff.
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Mindreading on my part, but here goes:

She's said she'll do anything, sex included. We're pretty compatible sexually, and I think she's separating it from ML. She enjoys it. So I'm not going to jump to the conclusion she's attracted to me. Horny and intoxicated, sure.

ML last night was the wrong thing to do.

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Originally Posted By: pinhead
Mindreading on my part, but here goes:

She's said she'll do anything, sex included. We're pretty compatible sexually, and I think she's separating it from ML. She enjoys it. So I'm not going to jump to the conclusion she's attracted to me. Horny and intoxicated, sure.

ML last night was the wrong thing to do.



You sound like a confused teenage girl. laugh

Sometimes sex is just sex and you have no idea what she was thinking or feeling.

I'm sure some women here will tell you that they can't ML without attraction.
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Originally Posted By: pookie69
I'm sure some women here will tell you that they can't ML without attraction.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Pinhead, whether you want to believe it or not, this is ABSOLUTELY true.


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I'm worse than a confused teenager. wink

You're right, I have no idea what she was thinking, just that she was willing.

If ML is a sure sign of affection at some level for women, then I might be overthnking things.

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Originally Posted By: pookie69
I'm sure some women here will tell you that they can't ML without attraction.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Pinhead, whether you want to believe it or not, this is ABSOLUTELY true.


Unless they are professionals - not the case here. grin


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