In all this H wouldn't think he was doing anything wrong. His thought would be that he is in a R with ow and he's being a friend to me and helping me out. Not sure ow would feel so pleased to know this.
Cas, that summarizes what i think my XH's perspective might be at this time. It frustrates me! I am watching your thread to see if you have any new insight on this. Since my XH told me about his GF/X-GF (I don't know what she is at this time) he seems to feel a new freedom to talk to me like a friend about the women he is meeting. Ughhhhhh! To me this sounds like he is online dating again. Just my intuition kicking in, which has been pretty good 'til this point. Think it might be time to talk to Jody to see if there is any hope for turning this around.
Have you talked to a DB coach lately? Wondering what kind of advice they gave you if you have? It sounds like our situations are fairly parallel at the moment.
Cas, if I was where you are, I would say "Let's us girls go out and forget about those men for a few hours!"