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Do you guys feel that she is doing it to gain my attention and expecting compliments? Or maybe even more? I have NEVER been good at making the first step or knowing what to say or when to say it when it came to intimacy. Maybe a fear of rejection or whatever. Our first kiss she damn near begged for it. That is a painful trend in my relationship with anyone I have ever dated. If these girls did not make the first move, I probably would still be a single virgin.

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Do you guys feel that she is doing it to gain my attention and expecting compliments?


While you're wondering about that the window of opportunity to give a honest and attractive compliment will pass.

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If these girls did not make the first move, I probably would still be a single virgin.


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Originally Posted By: gr8 day 2B alive

Women want to hear they are hot.
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Women also want to be surprised. Combining these two works like magic....

Compliment them when they are not expecting it. Do it in front of others....


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Originally Posted By: Ready2Change
Women also want to be surprised. Combining these two works like magic....

Compliment them when they are not expecting it. Do it in front of others....


By the way, this counts as 180 for you. grin


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... I have NEVER been good at making the first step or knowing what to say or when to say it when it came to intimacy. Maybe a fear of rejection or whatever. Our first kiss she damn near begged for it. That is a painful trend in my relationship with anyone I have ever dated. If these girls did not make the first move, I probably would still be a single virgin.


It sounds like you have some work to do. I think some reading is in order. I feel two books that would help are "The art of Seduction" and "Teach yourself Flirting" and "rules of the game". Check out this list of Good Books I have read with Links to Amazon


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Or as one of our vets here says:

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Originally Posted By: Coach

At lunch walk up to a attractive single woman and say, "Excuse me, I believe you dropped your name tag." You then smile and hand her a sugar packet. cool


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Thank you all so much for the advice Pookie69 and ready2change. Am am morethan willing to make whatever changes and to improve myself in any way. I did compliment her when she does wear nice clothing that really makes her look good. When she goes to the skin tight tank tops made for high school girls I do not say anything bad but I also do not compliment.

I will definately check those two books out. I have done more reading in the last 9 months than I have done in my life. I wish I would have read them all a long time ago and helped myself. They all have helped in one way or another and all have been recommendations of this site. You guys out here have really helped me through some rough times. Seems like things are better, but like has been a recurring comment on here, I need to lead. I need to do that at work too. Just need to figure out how to do that better. the No More Mr. Nice Guy book has helped, but I need to go a little further.

I am not getting my hopes up, but things have been better at home. Lets see if I can learn to lead better and lead us back to happiness. I need to stop being afraid to make a mistake. that has been my #1 problem. I have learned that if I make a mistake, I need to learn from it and move on and be stronger becasue of it. I will check out these books and then I will check in perriodically to let you know how things are going.

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Are there any books out there that will help me out learning to lead better or anything to help me in this area? I really want to step up, and a friend of my said I have been better but I really want to improve this portion of my life.

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Originally Posted By: SMM23

I did compliment her when she does wear nice clothing that really makes her look good. When she goes to the skin tight tank tops made for high school girls I do not say anything bad but I also do not compliment.


Hmm, what's wrong? She does not look good to you in tight tops?

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If you don't compliment, someone else will. She will find that person attractive.

Missing out on leading here.

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If she had the body for skin tight tank tops, there would be many compliments. It is not attractive. I love her enough not to compliment what should not be. I compliment what deserves it. She is very sexy in her own way. But acting like a high school girl is so not attractive. She is very attractive, just not skin tight tank top. I really hate to say it, becasue I think she eventually will look good in them. Just not yet.

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