Yes re read your thread, you are still obsessing, I have typed that so many times the E and S are wearing off on my keyboard. I am not trying to make light of this John, but TH is right, you overlook what other people have written, especially even the women on this board that give you the woman's perspective, which is that she playing games, being nice and still manipulating you. YOu come off so strong at times with your boundaries, then you constantly question yourself and what you learn here.