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TH,

Thanks! Nothing needs mediated because I was too good with the pre-nup when it was originated. In fact the L said we could easily file ourselves and be D before the ink dried.

I want to save the M, but of course I want my W to want it as well. Because of the communication walls that she put up I never had a chance to show that I am willing and have made changes. That is why I was driving myself crazy with wording my emails.

Before my W left she told me that I knew that she was looking for an apartment, but I never made the changes that she needed to see to keep her there and work on the M. I have made many changes and I still have many things to do as well. However, at this stage she will never see them.

My W always relied on me to make the decisions I guess she is waiting for me to help her make this one!

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So did you ever tell her you wanted to work on the M and you don't want a D?

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soleil,

I told her in a couple of emails, "That as much as I wanted the M to work, that she was right and that it will not" an affirmation of her feelings. Then listening to another relationship guru who told me that I should not have told her that I was letting her go so I wrote her another email and told her "That I was frustrated when I told her that I was letting her go and I really want us to work and I really want to figure out how to do that and I realize that she may not be there, but that was how I was feeling." Both of these emails were sent about two weks apart and the last sent about four weeks ago. I did not specifically tell her that I wanted to work on the M, but I think she knows how i feel.

So all of my emails prior to her stating that she wanted a D have been positive. I was being careful with my emails and trying not to push R, M or D. Now that she mentioned D I am pushing and showing confidence by leading the charge. But I leading in a race that I do not want to lead in.

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So you haven't spoken by mouth to her (on the tele)? Just through emails?

Has she seen an L or filed yet?

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Sol,

My understanding is:

She has pushed for divorce, she has "talked to an attorney", but she doesn't have one on retainer.

They haven't spoken via anything other than email in about 10 weeks.

When he asked for her attorney's name to pass along to his attorney, she asked about mediation and how HE would like to proceed.

In summary: she pushed for divorce, he asked for attorney's name to pass to his, now she is asking him how he would like to proceed with the divorce.

If I were a mind-reader, I would suggest she still wants a divorce, but she wants him to do all of the work and pay for it smile Not an uncommon thing.

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She changed her phone number and moved to another town so I do not know her address so email has been my only communication tool. For 10 weeks I have been emailing, not pursuing with R,M,D.

I sent her a b-day email last Friday and she responded on Monday with a "Thank you." On Monday evening she sent me an email telling me that she wanted to start the D process. I responded back an hour or two later and said, "Okay, I agree. I want you to be happy and I deserve to be with someone who wants to be with me." She asked me twice if I was okay with that.

The next morning I emailed her and suggested that we use a Mediator. Then from the Coach's 2x4 he told me that I needed to lead "show confidence, courage, etc." And so I sent her an email telling her that I met with my L gave him the pre-nup and he will draw up papers then I asked who is her lawyer.

Then she emailed me last night asking me if we should use a Mediator or should she get her own L. So that is where I am at this point.

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Originally Posted By: TimeHeals
If I were a mind-reader, I would suggest she still wants a divorce, but she wants him to do all of the work and pay for it smile Not an uncommon thing.


Sure sounds like it. Thanks for the summary.

Hurt, do you want to use a mediator or do you want to use a L? I know that mediation is generally less expensive.

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soleil and HT,

You are probably right about her wanting me to pay, she is as tight as two coats of paint when it comes to money. I would prefer a mediator becuase it would be less expensive and it would probably reqiuire the two of us working together, which she has avoided for the last 10 weeks.

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Well eventually you WILL have to work togteher if you're D'ing. That is just the way it goes. Eventally it must be faced and dealt with jointly.

Maybe you can suggest a mediator(s) to her and then you can both decide who to go with.

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soleil,

I read your post to MP. Do you think I should tell my W that I don't want a D and that I am willing to work on the M? How could I do that w/o appearing that I am begging or weak.

I see so much about the dynamic of the confident male, but not on how to demonstrate this w/o appearing that you are pursuing your W. I really feel that this whole DB and D is a cyclone of mind manipulation.

The fear that I have and I can see this as the root cause for a lot of D is that both parties have a protective wall around themselves and they truly fear communicating true feelings to the other due to the fear of rejection or appearing to your spouse as the pursuer. I would like nothing more than to tell my W how I truly feel, but I keep reading that she is not ready to hear that and that is pursuing behavior.

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