WOW, I think from reading the last 2 pages, men and women look at these situations differently. Lotus I am glad you saved your M, but when men are treated like dirt, other men see this, and say put your foot down. I am not here to judge anyone, the LBS or the WAW or WAH, but again as I have posted before I have used this site for over 10 years, 2 M's and separations in both M's.

I will have to say that most of what these vets say, is the right way to handle situations, again not always to save M, everyone has a different spouse, sitch and marital universe. But the advice given is to make the LBS stay focused and not wallow in misery to be the one left behind to be a potential suicide I have been in law enforcement for 8 years and have seen my fair share of domestic problems, M problems and child custody issues.

If someone bails on the M, and a LBS feels they are sincere about repairing it, and it is overlooked by the WA's then the LBS needs to stand up and not put up with manipulation, waffling or downright disrespect. My opinion for now my battery is about to die.