Thanks SA I have zero expectations as this is the third time this has happened this year. I know he is really depressed, as he is saying he has nothing to live for. Not only to me but to others too. This could be just sympathy though. I am not sure how to tell if he ahs hit Rock Bottom. All I know is OW is still living there. I have read though that when they start to awaken OW can still be around. Thanks for your input. HUGS