Thanks Pin, I am at home W and kids are at their new place. I came home from C appt, W had come by the house, and as I was walking up she drove back up, had her car packed up, and said " D thought she left her shoes here, but tey are in the car, so we just drove bak for that" I said ok, gave the kids a hug and kiss and told them I would see them tomorrow. Didnt say anything to the W just waved to her as I walked up the driveway. I was hoping to get a little feedback on the interaction from my post above, if anyone has any advice, comments or want to give me a cyber slap.