He does a lot of negotiating in his job, actually, even though he doesn't manage a team right now. Good point.

With D, he didn't go with us but he is now going up after work Friday and going to do a few things for her at her new place and is then coming home Sat. night. SO...I think it did get to him and at least now he's making an attempt to amend that. I'm happy about that, for D's sake. (And his too, actually. He doesn't need to alienate his kids because he's an emotional teenager at the moment.)

OH - and I remembered after my last post that we WERE given a plan of action for repairing the marriage after the weekend seminar! They gave us a CD with steps to take, etc... I just didn't even bother with it except for the first part because these are steps to take when BOTH of you are committed to working on the R. If you recall, he was not after the weekend retreat. However, when pushed to leave he would no go either. SO: we have to have the talk now: "OK, H: are you now willing to be committed to working on the M or do you want to move out?" I just want to be careful of timing on it. That discussion was put on ice because of D's move to college last week but it needs to happen. He will be in and out of town next week(for work) and to D's this weekend. I need to contemplate when best to push that discussion. I'm sure he's quite comfortable with status quo at the moment. Maybe that's not such a bad thing since no boundaries are being crossed and we're getting along fine...but I just don't want to allow fence-sitting too long!