I know, SR. In your case you need H to get rid of OW in order to work on the M. In my case, I'm pretty sure we've gotten rid of any extracurriculars (unless he's gone WAY underground) but he still needs to make a commitment that he wants to remain married and is committed to making it work and willing to do the necessary things to make the R good again. It's not happening. Well, I can't completely say that: he's willing to do the bare bottom necessities so that I don't force him out of the house, but he is still totally going on his feelings which are riddled in MLC. He is such a logical man in every other area of his life but just does not get that with his marriage it has to be that way too. He's waiting for "more feelings" to take action yet without the actions (of improving R) those feelings are not going to come!

In any case, I'm going to have to force the Sh*t or get off the pot with him, I know it. Been waiting to get D moved to college to have another big discussion. Now that's done, I just want the timing to be right. I'm not afraid to do it, but I know it will be another emotional night for me so I'm not looking forward to it.