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Fighting over Faberware gets you ZERO sexual attention.

It seems to me that y'all are picking the wrong battles to fight.



This really stand out in your posts:

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That's just the kind of stuff I've been dealing with our entire M.

hence the ridiculousness of your arguments

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Being belittled gets you ZERO sexual attention too.

That is why RESPECT is SO IMPORTANT in any R. W/o it you can't have TRUST, FRIENDSHIP, LOVE or anything else.

I also agree w choosing your battles, but snapping at eachother is never a good way to show RESPECT and build good communication skills.

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Fighting over Faberware


God, let's hope that it isn't as ridiculous as Faberware smile

I would hope it was at least All-Clad or Calphalon if anybody is getting bent smile

Just kidding: stuff is stuff.

Here's the argument I see:

He feels unappreciated, and she feels like he doesn't care about her concerns (e.g. scratching cookware).

The cookware, as ridiculous as it is to fight over, is where the battle was fought because it brought up those bigger issues that they aren't dealing with properly.


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Originally Posted By: TimeHeals

The cookware, as ridiculous as it is to fight over, is where the battle was fought because it brought up those bigger issues that they aren't dealing with properly.


Exactly!! Like lack of VALIDATION and RESPECT.

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Obviously, it isn't just about cookware, people. But - it is very indicative of the type of things that she belittles me about daily.

It could have been anything. I'm washing the counter wrong. I'm sweeping wrong. I'm watering the plants incorrectly. It doesn't matter - it's always something that she feels she is BETTER at than I am (and, she is) but she decides that instead of just letting me fail or do it my way, she must interject and either complain about the way I do it, or push me out of the way so she can do it. I'm tired of that.

There are some things I don't try to help with, because they bug her so much. One such thing is laundry. Apparently I don't fold it exactly right. So, I only hang things on hangers while she folds. That's one compromise we've come to, and it works.

But last night I felt like I took a stand, and showed the MAN side of me rather than saying, "Sorry honey, I know you told me not to use that spoon. I'm so sorry. You're right, yada yada." I never told her that she was wrong. I just told her I didn't like how she handled the situation and took over belittling me. I think even if she floundered on my response, I made a demand of respect at that time.


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John, I treated my wife the way your's is treating you. I'm not sure why I did/do. Control issue? Insecurity? The need to feel better than someone?

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And just for some further clarifcation, it wasn't a metal spoon. It was a hard(er) plastic one. Apparently, too hard. lol


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Nice job. Keep on defining your boundaries and demanding RESPECT from both parties and you should see a change in the dynamic. Like Sandi said this dynamic has been very immature and needs to change or it will just continue.

Hold the line.

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And just for some further clarifcation, it wasn't a metal spoon. It was a hard(er) plastic one. Apparently, too hard. lol


What? !!

Good grief. It's not worth fighting over. You two need to stop invalidating one another.

I suspect she's a tad bit too structured (re: OCD).

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It could have been anything. I'm washing the counter wrong. I'm sweeping wrong. I'm watering the plants incorrectly. It doesn't matter


It does matter or you wouldn't be here would you?

Let's flip the scenario for the men. Your wife is going to wash and wax your newly restored candy apple red '65 Mustang convertible, V-8 289, 4 speed. She hoses the car off and as she's getting ready to sponge it off she drops the sponge in a a pile of gravel and sand and starts to wipe the car down. shocked. After throughly "washing" the car she parks it in the sun and starts to apply the wax, she lets it get good and dry then decides to wipe it off a couple of hours later. eek

Do you see why to a woman bad help is worse than any help? It just creates more work for her. So if she has to refold the laundry, resweep the floor, rewash the counter did you really help her? Really sounds like AOS is her deal too, so it does matter. FWIW, I fold the towels in different way now. It didn't affect my manhood. cool

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