"Interesting though, that EVEN though he told you straight up all of those things that you say he said to you, that you are no differeent than the others. You are STILL trying to win him back. What does it take for a WS to tell a BS that it is OVER and for the BS to get it and give up????? "

WOW, the 2x4 method.

NO Different than the others? By others I guess you mean all of us who think there may still be hope. Then why are we all here DBing and 180ing our butts off? Why are YOU here?

I get what H said loud and clear. it hurt, but I get it. There are days I agree, we should split. Then other days, I think the opposite. I don't however, buy into tossing away a M because it's the best way to "get rid of the problem", IE the spouse. The whole point of DB and 180 is to "change" for ourselves, and IF a WAS does get a grip on their need to be "free" (doesn't anyone realize free isn't FREE), of the "beast of burden", then a DIFFERENT M may work.

It's all a crap shoot and full of it at best. But I will know in a few months that I did all I could to save a failing M. There is NO shame in that.

If I may respectfully add, your posts sound a bit angry and discouraged.No offense meant there friend


SQ