Yes, you are VERY right. I just didn't even look at it that way because I grew up being verbally/emotionally abused by my mother and I'm so used to different forms of that. I have to remember that there are other lines of respect to defend other than just outward actions: feelings, a sense of security, all of that. H doesn't get that of course. Well, obviously, since he didn't think the aftermath of an affair is as bad as the aftermath of poor spending habits...

Please, if you find that - share! That'd be awesome.

SO, later on when I get done with class, do you think I should email him and say something or just wait to see if it comes up again?

I did talk to S16 briefly last night and gently explained what was said. (He brought it up, actually.) He said he may write H a letter, as D18 did last week. I told him I did not want him caught in the middle. I just wanted support for the marriage if it came up again. I think you're very wise in suggesting I give each of the kids an "exit script" out of a conversation. Any ideas??? :-)