I agree with both of you that he is trying to prep D - and may try with boys as well. I know he has had these chats before as D told me when I talked to her on Monday that he's said some things. I will see if I can find out without overtly prying today - as to what transpired. I had told her on Monday that he will try to justify his actions and feelings. It's a fine line: I told her and S16 both that it isn't that I want them to be anti-Dad, I just want them to be FOR the family being together.

And good idea, Allen, about making sure to include the kids in the script. The sad part is, like most WAS, H doesn't think of it as abandoning his children. He truly believes he will still be here for them: live close by, do things with them, be at their events, etc... Heck, at one time he even made it out that I could go get an apt and HE would stay in the house with the boys! You know, because they're boys and they need DAD more than mom. D18 will be off at college in just 3 weeks. Talk about stress, GEEZ. Like that's not going to be emotional enough without going through all of this at the same time. D and I are very close and now she will be gone and I'm facing separation/divorce at the same time. Anyway, the point being - H does not believe it will hurt the children all that much. I've asked them to take a stand and tell him it will if he discusses it with them (D18 and S16) but it's hard to "be tough" with your Dad.